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tired of the internet; BSG; reality vs. model; those who grok, I salute you.

I really can’t be that smart, can I? I look for other signs of intellect on the internet, some spark, some comment…

It’s a desert of original thought. The solipsist in me is saying “I told you so.” If it were not for a few wonderful people who speak volumes in between their sentences, I may go mad and become intolerable.

In other wor[l]ds, I totally called the BSG cliffhanger, and I think I’ve got a handle on the overall plot lines (or rather, I have a good/great plot line that the writers seem to be following). I told heather, but now I wish I would have posted it when I thought of it so I could say some “I told you so”s of my own, but the end result is I don’t know to whom I’d really be proving myself. I’m just happy that in shows like LOST and BSG I don’t feel insulted (except by fans whom I read who report being insulted because they aren’t smart enough to realize they aren’t smart enough to understand big-picture plot lines).

For instance, in LOST, (which is softer in this aspect now-a-days and is telegraphing for the slow) people continue (as in real life – and I mean LOST fans people) to miss aspects of plot lines, make immature decisions (and even believe thats where the story *is* going), then get disappointed when their ideas of what is happening is shown to be false (as it always was).

People, when shown how reality destroys/ruins their model of reality will find fault with reality rather than throw away their precious model

Now if you didn’t understand that last sentence, I’ll be happy to explain to you (though not in this comment, I will start another discussion). Those who do understand (and I think I know who you are) — I love you. Thanks for making taking the next breath worth it.

I had a nice little thought-game / reality-model going through my head the other day that tied in human behaviour, psychology, storytelling & character development, perception, etc. It tied in people’s reactions to serial fiction and how it exposes their avenue of reality perception. Perhaps if there are enough existential pseudo-solipsists about, I could get all navel-gazery with them.

It’s just I’m up here and so many of you are down here. No judgment or anything, but it gets lonely amongst those who grok. You told Brandt on the phone, he told me. Yes, yes. I’m already ahead of you.

13 Replies to “tired of the internet; BSG; reality vs. model; those who grok, I salute you.”

  1. In other wor[l]ds,

    **STEALS UNABASHEDLY

    I don’t know to whom I’d really be proving myself to.

    Different frame: it’s not about the exchange of data. It’s about human connectivity and community.

    (except by fans whom I read who report being insulted because they aren’t smart enough to realize they aren’t smart enough to understand big-picture plot lines).

    Thank you.

    People, when shown how reality destroys/ruins their model of reality will find fault with reality rather than throw away their precious model

    Because it’s all about MEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEME!

    Perhaps if there are enough existential pseudo-solipsists about, I could get all navel-gazery with them.

    Well, you could. Then, examine the resulting discussions as narrative, and use it to expose avenues of perception. From that, build a model 🙂

    Of course, the narratives mythologies models we create exist in reality. If any model has been proposed outside of reality, I don’t know about it. Though if I did I might first ask what are you doing out there? And more importantly, how did you get there?

    Among other responses, you sound frustrated with yourthe inability to connect ( I love you) with people over common understandings and knowledge. Things that seem obvious to you.

    What happened/what did you see that left you lonely?

    pseudo-solipsists: Does this mean “un-narcissistic”? (In the non-clinical sense, mostly, like “memememememememe”.)

    Maybe those that don’t grok are just different, and not necessarily intellectually inferior? Or maybe it is hierarchical. Or a little of both? I remember my post back after the formal Season 1 opener; I read on another blog some angry college students ranting about how horrible the new BSG was because all they did was talk about how bad human beings were. Where was the good stuff about human beings?

  2. I try not to think about it in terms of superior/inferior – rather in terms of difference. Of course *I* think I’m superior – I’m sure I would think that no matter where I was. Just a trick of the brain.

    How did I get so lonely? I guess I miss being able to have esoteric discussions. I suppose I should post them more often, even if it only becomes a discussion between you, I, and MarkorMarky.

    I do like my ideas about judging character in both print/media and in personal relationships (and perceptions thereof). Perhaps I’ll try to put that down.

    I suppose I’m caught in this solipsist statement, (which I don’t necessarily believe, mind you) — but: “Why should I share any of my thoughts? It’s not like any of you really exisit.”)

    Now, where does that come from? I’ve been weary, weary, weary of explaining myself. Of defining terms, unwrapping thoughts. I have tried and failed so often that I’ve stopped trying. And the only reason I would care about other people understanding me would be so I could have a conversation and not feel lonely in my own world. But really – that’s all I have is my own world, and any feelings of companionship seem hollow and false.

    Yes, It’s that time of the month for me. I’ll not give into Ennui – It’s far more a weary situation.

    Plus, I’m spoiled by those in my life who can and do Grok; and really, I’d rather spend time with them I suppose. Dunno.

  3. I hear you. It drives me crazy too, though I want to purge the word grok from existence. And I totally called BSG too!!!

  4. try not to think about it in terms of superior/inferior – rather in terms of difference. Of course *I* think I’m superior – I’m sure I would think that no matter where I was. Just a trick of the brain.

    Regardless, it’s not helpful for self-actualization unless it is utterly objective. Which we rarely are, if ever.

    I do like my ideas about judging character in both print/media and in personal relationships (and perceptions thereof). Perhaps I’ll try to put that down.

    I was hoping you’d elaborate. 🙂

    “Why should I share any of my thoughts? It’s not like any of you really exisit.”)

    In a sense, it’s true, except for the “I” part: we’re not as separate as we think and feel (trick of the culture). But this doesn’t really help.

    But you should share your thoughts because despite your Introversion, you are a social animal, and when you share your thoughts you often do so most directly through things you say (versus things you make or things you do). Language use appears to be a defining quality of homo sapien sapien. To not insistently reach out and to do so with language would be unnatural and against your nature. The fact that you choose certain subjects (instead of say sports, or the ubiquitous weather) is one of your defining qualities: it’s your presenting your authentic self. There is more, but . . . how old are you?

  8. I understand the dislike of words – Blog in particular comes to mind.

    However, I do like Grok. I’m a bad man.

  9. Blog sounds like a bad word. I really can’t bring myself to use it. I think the reason behind hating Grok is that Stranger in a Strange Land just kind of annoyed me. I’ve been told that that’s because I was older than the average reader, but who knows.

    I can respect your love of Grok, even if it’s not my thing. 😀

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