Something to chew on:
A Position
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People do not own culture. People are owned by culture.
The very idea of culture being ‘appropriated’ is an illusion, since there are no groups in reality. There are only individuals exhibiting behavior.
The deranged mind of everyone’s favourite ne’er-do-well
Why talk in terms of ownership at all?
Because I had to use some kind of word!
Dude! I feel like we’ve had this conversation. I always like to think of it as cultural dispersion – like an scent moving across the room.
I think culture is to humans as ecology is to biological entities. Ownership is such a laden word.
Just imagine I used another word instead.
Yeah, I thought I’d stick it up here for fun and also cause I’m spoiling for a fight and taking delight in hanging sacred clowns.
What more is there to be said? Non-linear dynamics, fractal limit cycles, and srendipitou synergy.
Yes, that sounds academic enough ^_~
😀
Where is when you need him?
Darn babies!
Wow– you opened a can of worms again. I posted on this topic back in November. http://vbseth.livejournal.com/39029.html . In fact you were the first to comment.
Anyways– let the good times roll LOL
muck raking– very very cute 🙂
I enjoy being a thorn.
Heh, yeah I remember that now! I’m in total agreement with you, though I’ve been quite against verbosity as of late.
He is in transit– I am sure his fingers are itching to type right now. In fact, just to torture him a bit, I might call him and let him know about this discussion. One wonders if he might stop at some internet cafe along the way just to throw in his 2 cents.
Wow, re-read through all of that again. everyone was in the details, no one addressed it from big-picture-view. Unsupported ideas that historical cultures have the right to the symbols and artifacts they historically used. I’m questioning that very idea in a grander sense.
I.e. I can’t “steal” something that does not exist.
Tell him I’ll have to make fun of him if he gets too detail-oriented and crap. This is fingerpainting philosophy.
hmm, I like it. I always had trouble with the idea of “cultural appropriation” anyway and hadn’t been able to put my finger on why.
though pale imitations of cultural artifacts/etc. are always disturbing as well.
I’m gonna go read the other post you stirred up about this now. =)
Well, people using cultural and historical symbols withough understanding their traditional meanings remain a source of amusement for all 🙂
there are no groups in reality. There are only individuals exhibiting behavior.
How adorably Thatcherite of you!
huh?
Two thoughts sprang to mind about this position:
1. Why should anyone care(sic)?
2. If there are no groups in reality how can culture own a person?
I don’t know, you tell me. 🙂
One of the most famous Margaret Thatcher quotes – “there is no such thing as society, only individuals and families”. Very odd to see someone with such a different perspective approaching the same position, albeit from the opposite direction.
Interesting. I’d have to agree with her observation. Of course, I’m sure we’d do completely different things with these base lower-case ‘t’ truths. 🙂